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2021 Wet Fly Swing Podcast Year Introduction and Fly Fishing Greatness (WFS 178)

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This is a quick solo episode for the Wet Fly Swing Podcast and what we have coming for 2021.  We also touch on 2020 and how the year went.  We grew by over 60% because of you so wanted to thank you here.

I also share the focus for 2021 given that we will not change any of the posting schedule, a new show will still drop every Tuesday.  We are also doing some big giveaways in 2021 that are going to be huge and provide a ton of excitement for the Wet Fly Swing Team.

 

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Show Notes for the 2021 Wet Fly Swing Podcast

05:30 – I noted the Fly Fishing Insider Podcast and the big giveaways we have going.  Stay tuned as I’ll update you as we launch into the year.

06:06 – The Outdoors Online Marketing Podcast and the Jay Abraham episode that was huge.

08:20 – The Wet Fly Swing Team and Wet Fly Swing Media is two other bigs things this year.  If you want to join the team reach out to dave@wetflyswing.com.

10:12 – The Wet Fly Swing app is one way to listen and grab bonus content.

 

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Conclusion for the 2021 Wet Fly Swing Podcast

I do a quick summary of 2020 and talk about what is coming for 2021.  We will be surpassing 1 million downloads and 200 episodes in 2021.  I also note the new position we are looking to fill in 2021.

If you have an idea for the podcast, want to join the team or just have feedback please connect with me in 2021.  If you have never said hey or dropped me a message, please do this year.  It makes my day better every time!

         

WFS 177 – History of the Driftboat with Roger Fletcher (Drift Boat Series Ep. 2)

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Roger Fletcher is here to share the history of the driftboat and how it all started back in the early 20th century with a few river guides that needed a better boat for whitewater.  We discover the connection between the Rogue, Mckenzie, Grand Canyon Dories and why the name drift boat stuck over the river dorie.

Roger describes how the drift boat design came to be through a few key people over the last 100 years.  Roger is the leading authority on drift boats so is very exciting to have him on the podcast today.

 

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Driftboat History Show Notes 

10:45 – I noted Jerry Briggs and the Grand Canyon River dories run by OARS now.

11:40 – Milo Thomson used the old scow boat and were the first boats on the river until 1925.  Milo and the early guides on the river were there to focus on drift boat fishing and guiding their clients.

14:50 – We hear the story of Keith Steele and the first boats built for the Colorado River and Martin Litton.

20:10 – I noted the Pete Mcbride video and Martin’s boat.

 

Driftboat Plans

24:20 – We talk about the Dorie Book by John Gardner.  In this episode we didn’t go deep into drift boat Plans but you can check out Drift Boats and Dories for 10 full plan sets and how to build your own boat.

There are a number of drift boat plans in Roger’s book but there are other resources around the web.  There are various boat school, classes and forums that you can take advantage of.

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photo via: https://www.thewoodenboatschool.com/boatbuilding/build-mckenzie-river-dory.php

 

29:00 – Veltie Pruitt is the guy who built the old scow for the river. Veltie shortened the boat and made it much lighter of a boat.

30:20 – in 1925 Prince Helfrich saw veltie go by in the new 13 foot boat.  So Veltie built a boat for Prince and they built a life long friendship.

31:40 – Woody hindman moved in around 1934 to the area from Texas.  Woody is maybe the most important person to the contemporary design.  He built the first double ender and is basically what we see today in a contemporary drift boat.

35:00 – We talk about Ray Heater and the 14′ rapid robert has great carrying capacity and can get up on step

37:10 – Joe Koffler with Koffler Boats talked about getting up on plane with a sled in a recent podcast we put together.

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39:20 – The lava falls dorie and the boat rolling and dumping.  And if you thought you needed a huge drift boat to run the Grand Canyon, think again.  This guy ran it in a 13 foot drift boat.

41:10 – We talked about Roger’s Martin Litton interview and why Martin was a bigger than life figure.

45:00 – Tom kaarhus played a big role in the evolution of drift boats by innovating plywood as the material of choice for drift boats.

55:20 – Vintage wooden boat tours over in Jackson Wyoming

62:20 – The winkle bar boat was a lot like the log driver boat from Maine.  This is the boat that migrated across the country and landed in Oregon.

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1:06:40 – You can get the book Drift Boats and river dories here at Anglers Book supply.

1:20:20 – The emerald mile and the fastest run on the Colorado’s history.

1:23:20 – Here’s the old photo of Martin’s son in an early Colorado River Dorie.

Woody Hindman was the biggest influence on drift boats and was the guy who created the double ender which is what has given us the current drift boat design.  His boat of choice became the 16′ double ender.  He added the motor on the transom and is now the boat we see for most wood boats and drift boats.

 

Drift Boats for Sale

You can go to Ray’s River Dories for a new wood boat or Jason Hayes on the McKenzie.

Then over to Montana where many are stitch and glue style boats like the Cajune boats.

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photo via: http://www.cajuneboats.com/

Wooden Boat People is a great place to find and sell wooden boats.

We also touched on Don Hill boats and the effect on the McKenzie boat style with a wider and more open boat plan.

DH Drift Boats is now owned by another person after Don Hills passing.

 

You can find Roger at RiversTouch.com

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Driftboat Resources Noted in the Show

The Dory Book by John Gardner 

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Drift Boats and River Dories by Roger Fletcher

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Driftboat Videos Noted in the Show

Rogue River Whitewater Video – Great Views

 

 

Flipping a dory in Lava Falls: Right Run, Hitting Humpback Chub from Jeffe Aronson on Vimeo.

 

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Driftboat History Conclusion

We discover the history of the drift boat from the guy who wrote the book on it.  Roger Fletcher shares some great stories including how a little known boat builder from grants pass produced 35 of the greatest river dories for the Grand Canyon and are still going strong today.

         

Steelhead Alley with Greg Senyo – Laser Dub, Fly Tying (WFS 176)

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The creator of laser dub and a premier OG steelhead ally guide is here to share some stories and his point of view on fly fishing, guiding, and the Great Lakes.  We find out about Greg’s role in fly fishing, fly tying,  and how he has evolved over the years.

We hear about Clyde Murray and the story of catching Greg stealing flies as a kid and then teaching him how to tie flies.  We find out about the shale monster that is elk creek and some big steelhead tips.

 

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Steelhead Alley Show Notes with Greg Senyo

Laser Dub and Materials

01:00 – Laser dub is one of the first fly tying products that put Greg Senyo on the map. Greg talks about how he created it and a few other products he’s created over the years.

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10:00 – Dean Finnerty was on the podcast in a past episode and talked about dressing up in costumes and working as a police officer and guiding on the side.  He also covered fly fishing the North Umpqua in depth.

20:50 – laser yarn is where the idea of laser dub came from for Greg.  Greg gives a shoutout to an old guy back in the day who created the yarn that inspired his dubbing.

22:40 – Predator wrap is another Greg product produced by Hareline. 

26:55 – Jerry Kustich coined steelhead alley with the fly fisherman magazine article.  Starts in Buffalo and goes to the end of Cleveland.

39:20 – Greg breaks down the steps to fishing an indicator rig for steelhead.

42:00 – We note Blane Chocklett, Kelly Galloup and the fact that all of their stuff works for steelhead.

51:40- – i noted the Trevor kovich podcast who is out on the OP and covered steelhead fishing the Olympic Peninsula.

54:10 – The Artificial Intelligence is one of greg’s goto steelhead fly patterns.  We also noted Kevin Fenestra who was on the podcast to cover another Great Lakes Steelhead topic.

Greg Senyo’s Egg Raider 

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56:20 – Russ Maddin and the Chromatic Peanut and the flash monkey which is created to catch steelhead on a stripped fly.

1:05:06 – The Drunken Disorderly from Tommy Lynch is killer.  Bob Popovich was another leader in the space back in the day.

1:10:30 – Enrico Puglisi brushes was another partnership that Greg put together.

 

You can find Greg at GregSenyoflytying.com

gregsenyo@yahoo.com and Greg also manages Schultz Outfitters:

Schultz outfitters

 

 

Steelhead Alley fly fishing Topics

  1. Swinging flies
  2. Stripping streamers – Russ Maddin
  3. Nymphing Flies
    1. use white flies
    2. use white indicators
  4. Steelhead Indicators
  5. Steelheqd ally
  6. How to indicator fish
  7. Use short flourocarbon leaders

 

Steelhead Alley Resources Noted in the Show

Predator Wrap

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Steelhead Ally Videos Noted in the Show

Blane Chocklett

 

The Artificial Intelligence

 

Russ Maddin and the Chromatic Peanut

“Happy Wife, Happy Life.”

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Steelhead Alley Conclusion with Greg Senyo

Greg Senyo shares his fly fishing story as a leader in the Great Lakes steelhead alley area. The egg fly and sucker spawn were discovered early after Clyde caught Greg stealing as a 9 year old in the old shop.

Great gets real with it and shares the background of why he moved away from the fly fishing industry to go back into hunting and some of his other passions.

         

Australia Fishing with Peter Morse – Fly Fishing Tasmania, New Zealand (WFS 111)

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Peter Morse, aka the Lefty Kreh of Australia Fishing, shares his vast knowledge on a life fishing and living in Australia.  Peter shares some tips for Australia Fly Fishing with a focus on catching Baramundi including the life cycle and when and where to target them.

Hear about the TV show that Peter put together for prime time that lasted five seasons.  I have the biggest name in the world of fly fishing today so excited to introduce you to Peter Morse if you hadn’t heard of him yet.

This original blog post was published on December 10th, 2019.  On January 2nd, 2020 this article was updated to include more relevant links and content.

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Australia Fishing Show Notes with Peter Morse

12:20 – The World Championships were held in Tasmania in 2019.  Peter noted how robust the the fisheries are around Australia.

21:45 – Dean Butler is a legend in Australia and was a big influence.  He is now Tom Evans right hand man and involved in the world record marlin catches.

23:50 – Wild Fish was Peter’s prime time fly fishing tv series that was sponsored by Sage and aired for 5 seasons in Australia.

33:50 – Episode 7 with Pete Humphries was a good episode on the stress of the Casting Certification.  Peter tells the story of how he failed his recent test.  It’s a valid story.

50:26 – The Pink thing is one of Peter’s goto flies for baramundi.  Here’s a video that shows you how to do it.

55:20 – A Few Great Flies and How to Fish Them is Peter’s book that he’s most proud of.

59:50 – The Gusto is another goto patter for Peter.  Here’s the step x step guide to tying this pattern.

1:02:40 – Rod Harrison is a great resource for baramundi and Australia.

1:04:57 – Boneheads Group is one of the local fishing groups.

 

You can find Peter at Wild Fish here.

 

Resources Noted in the Show

The Wild Fish TV Series

 

Videos Noted in the Show

The Pink Thing Fly Pattern

 

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Australia Fishing Conclusion

Peter Morse breaks down fly fishing Australia and the extraordinary fisheries that make up the fishing.  We here how Peter has mad a life in fly fishing from the first article and camera he purchased to his prime time TV show.  If you have interest in going to Australia on a hosted trip with me, enter your email below to learn more.

         

Trout Spey with Capt. John McCloskey – Naknek River Alaska, Swinging Flies (WFS 089)

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We cover trout spey with Captain John McCloskey aka Dry Fly John on Instagram.  John goes deep into how he catches trout on the Chattahoochee River and the Naknek River out of Alaska.  John is teaching trout spey in Georgia, a place where it hasn’t totally consumed everyone quite yet.

Tons of great tips including the best rod, lines, how to cast and how he teaches spey.  We talk about the difference between spey, switch and single hand and how to present the fly to different trout species.

This article was originally published on July 23, 2019.  This article was updated on December 31, 2020 to refresh links and make more relevant.

 

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Trout Spey Show Notes with John McCloskey

07:20 – Johnathan Farmer’s micro intruders kill down south.  John breaks down the steps to fishing the swing in Georgia, his home for half of the year.

11:00 – Echo’s 4113 and the Echo Swing 7126 are differences in the trout vs steelhead game.

17:00 – The OPST 425 head or whatever you need to lengthen the sink tip.  It’s simple with the OPST even when swinging T20.

18:00 – Here’s the link to the podcast episode with OPST and James Millard.

James Millard was on a second time recently to break down swinging with dry flies.

22:00 – The 200 grain OPST skagit head can work for a 9′ 5 weight as well.

24:00 – Here is the link to the Marty and Mia Sheppard episode where we talked about the spey game and how it’s a life long process.

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25:00 – Jeff Liskay was a big mentor for John especially with the spey game.

30:20 – Dan Johnston was also talking about stopping your thumb straight up instead of the 10 to 2 analogy.  Here’s the podcast with Dan and St. Croix

46:30 – John notes the RIO Mow Tip, the Flo Tip and the OPST have the riffle, the run and the bucket which makes it pretty straight forward.  Here’s a video from Red’s that talks about the OPST tips.

48:40 – The RIO game changer is another good setup.

52:30 – The Naknek River Camp, Katmai Trophy Lodge, along with the Blue Bonefish in Belize.

1:04:30 – We mentioned the Fishhawk Fly Shop.

1:05:45 – Jerry Darkus was another big mentor for John and someone I still hope to get on the podcast.

1:09:15 – The OPST website and youtube channel is a great resource for the spey game.

 

You can find John at instagram @DryFlyJohn.

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Resources Noted in the Show

OPST Commando Head

 

Videos Noted in the Show

Bob Dylan – Subterranean Homesick Blues

 

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Trout Spey Conclusion with John McCloskey

John McCloskey breaks out his best trout spey tips for the Naknek River in Alaska and the Chattahoochee River out of Georgia.  Lots of great tips to get you swininging a little better on your next trip.

 

         

Ask About Fly Fishing with Roger Maves (WFS 175)

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Roger Maves is hear to share the story of how he started Ask About Fly Fishing way back in 2006, before podcasting was really even a word.  We also here about Roger’s fly fishing digital marketing agency in the second show today.

I put together a unique episode where mid way we transfer over to the Outdoors Online Marketing Podcast and a chat about the business services that Roger provides for fly fishing brands.

Click here to listen second half of this podcast and the full business podcast for this episode.

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Ask About Fly Fishing Show Notes with Roger Maves

05:10 – The Itinerant angler started about the same time as Ask about fly fishing way back in 2006.

08:15 – I note the Pete McBride episode that I put together and the drift boat series we are doing covering the history of drift boats and the companies that build them.

09:50 – We talk about the Feather Thief book and the author who Roger had on his podcast.

12:30 – Instant TeleSeminar is the software that Roger uses for live podcast recording.

19:10 – MidRoll is one of the big podcast advertising companies but may not apply directly to fly fishing.

22:00 – Fly Fishing Digital Marketing Group – Click here and listen to the second half of this show where we talk about digital marketing with Roger.

28:00 – We talked about Roger Fletcher who is a drift boat historian and was on the Ask About Fly Fishing Podcast.

33:00 – Denny Rickards was on the podcast here in episode 64.

36:00 – I had Martin Joergensen on the podcast from the Global Fly Fisher.

 

You can find Roger at Ask About Fly Fishing here.

 

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Ask About Fly Fishing Conclusion 

Roger Maves, host of the Ask About Fly Fishing Podcast, is here to share some of the history of how he started way back in 2006.  He also digs into his fly fishing digital marketing agency. 

We go deep into the business side of fly fishing and how he serves his audience with his current show and a brand new website focused on digital marketing for fly fishing brands.

         

Phil Rowley on Stillwater Fly Fishing, Chironomids, and Brian Chan (WFS 034)

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I had the pleasure of interviewing Phil Rowley to discuss stillwater trout fishing. We covered sinking lines, rod length for lakes, how to match the hatch, fly tying and chironomid behavior on top of much more.

To be totally honest I’ve been a little out of the loop on lakes as of late and Phil sheds light on a number of techniques that I have never used before.  You don’t want to miss this episode if you are interested in fly fishing lakes!

This Podcast and blog post was originally published on august 7th, 2018.  The blog post was updated on December 30th, 2020 with updated links and content that will create a better user experience as you read.

 

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Show Notes on Lake Fishing with a Fly

06:10 – Fly Patterns for Stillwater by Phil Rowley

06:42 – Brian Chan  has been a big influence on Phil and in all of stillwater fishing.

I also had a chat with Denny Rickards on another podcast and we dug into more step x step stillwater tips.  

08:46 – Conquering Chironomids DVD

20:00 – Gary LaFontaine – Caddisflies

Gary’s name has come up many times on other podcasts and I noted as a person way ahead of his time when it comes to bugs.

25:18 –  A few of Phil’s fly patterns —> The Chromie and The Collaborator and the Balanced leech

36:40 – A book Phil noted that was an influence —>  The Gilly  (A fly fishing guide to British Columbia)

36:55 –> Jack Shaw (The Father of Chironomid Fishing)

38:35 – Gary Borger (Designing Flies) and Doug Swisher (Fly Tying)

52:40 —> The Stillwater App  The Facebook page for the new app that will put Phil’s knowledge inside your pocket!

54:40 – The Boise Fly Fishing show and a few others where you can find Phil over the next year

 

You can Phil at www.flycraftangling.com/ or on Instagram at flycraftphil.

 

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Conclusion with Phil Rowley

Phil provided a bunch of great stillwater tips that will help you catch more fish.  He discussed his new stillwater app, videos he has produced and some of his biggest mentors.  Please click on the itunes link above and subscribe to help get the word out about the show.

Phil is one of the most well know stillwater anglers partly because of the work he has put together on chironomids.  Brian Chan is another big stillwater angler and influence for Phil.

         

Step x Step Guide to Fishing Wet Flies with Davy Wotton (WFS 174)

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Davy Wotton is here to break out a step x step guide to getting started fly fishing wet flies.  We break down each step today in a systematic fashion so you know exactly how to fish wet flies like a pro.

Davy shares the perfect rod, line and leader as well as his top 20 wet flies of all time.  Davy notes that the dry line is the goto line but that you should have an intermediate line as part of your gear.

 

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Part 1 – Davy Wotton was first on the podcast in Episode 35 and covered wet fly fishing here.

 

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Show Notes – Fishing Wet Flies with Davy Wotton

04:20 – Check out the ultimate wet fly fishing blog post that includes many of the steps that aren’t written down in this blog post.

06:50 – Davy notes some of the wet fly fishing and tying group.  The classic wet fly tyers group is one good example. 

 

Take a look at 5 Top Old School Wet Flies that Work

18th Century Patterns that still catch fish today

 

15:00 – Clear amnesia is what davy uses for building his leaders.

39:30 – Wet Fly Ways is the great DVD that covers all of Davy’s best tips on wet fly fishing.

1:24:50  – I had a great podcast with Dave Whitlock, one of Davy’s best friends. 

1:30:50 – I noted the drift boat series that we have going.

 

You can find Davy at DaveWottonFlyFishing.com

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14 Tips on Fishing Wet Flies for Trout

  1. You should either match the hatch or use attractors
  2. Understand how the fish are taking the wet fly
  3. Understand what the fish are feeding on so you can match
  4. Use rod movement and retrieve to make wet fly come to life
  5. 2 casts – upstream dead drift or slightly up and across
  6. The more you eliminate fly line off the water the better.
  7. Longer leaders help you keep line off of the water (at least 12’)
  8. Never allow your 3 flies to track in a straight line
  9. work on fish closest to you first
  10. Reading water is key based on time of year, water temperature, DO levels
  11. Types of wet flies – Imitative in nature vs attractor patterns
  12. spider vs soft hackle – body is the big difference with sparse spider
  13. Use the 3 turn surgeons knot and the davy knot.  all you need
  14. Tie your fly off the lower surgeons knot thread

 

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Resources on Fishing Wet Flies

Wet Fly Ways

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Videos on Fishing Wet Flies Noted in the Show

How to tie the davy knot

 

How to tie the surgeons knot (aka water turn knot in UK)

 

Top 20 Flies for Davy Wotton 

Click here to see photos of these 20 patterns

  1. March Brown winged or soft hackle
  2. Hares ear winged or soft hackle
  3. Black gnat
  4. blue dun
  5. dark Cahill
  6. lead coachman
  7. Coachman
  8. light Cahill
  9. Pmd
  10. Quill gordon
  11. wickham fancy
  12. ginger quill
  13. Parterigd and orange
  14. Green wills glory
  15. Peter ross
  16. Alexander
  17. water hen blower
  18. Muldler daddy
  19. Dunkeld
  20. Watsons fancy

 

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“The more you eliminate fly line off the water, the better.”

-Davy Wotton

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Conclusion – Fishing Wet Flies with Davy Wotton

Davy Wotton is here to produce another amazing podcast episode on fishing wet flies with a focus on caddis hatches.  We find out how emerges hatch and how you can match this hatch under the surface.

Find out why a soft tip rod is key, why you need an intermediate line and the exact formula to create your leader and cast of flies.  This is the ultimate wet fly fishing step x step podcast.  We find out how to know how deep to go with your bug.

         

WFS 045 – Nymphing for Trout with Gary Borger – Nymph Fishing Tips, Fly Fishing History

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I had the great pleasure to chat with Gary Borger about Nymphing for Trout and his contribution to fly fishing in many respects over a career of writing and video.

Gary talks about how he produced the first fly fishing instructional video, how he was part of the first FFF Casting Certification, and goes into detail on his tactics for nymph fishing and using indicators.

This article was originally published on October 23, 2018.  It was updated on December 26, 2020 to provide updated links and information.

 

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Nymphing for Trout Show Notes with Gary Borger

06:05 – The leadwing coachman was the fly Gary used to catch his first fish.

07:50 – GEM Skues was the Father of Nymph Fishing.

14:39 – Gary’s groundbreaking book was Nymphing in 1979 and his accompanying video on Nymphing.

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18:56 – Gary’s book, Naturals, was another contribution to fly fishing evolution.

20:50 – Mel Krieger and others were part of the original Fenwick Fly Fishing School.

21:40 – The FFF Fly Fishing Certification Process.

22:30 – Pete Humphries was on the podcast in episode 7.

24:10 – George Harvey was the man who showed Gary that he had some work todo with his cast.

30:05 – Lee Wulff and his quote “Game fish are too valuable to be caught only once” had a big impact on conservation at the time.

31:40 – The Steve Duda episode with the FlyFish Journal noted that we are all a part of the conservation effort.

41:20 – Here’s a link to the history of the 1989 Gold medal taken by the Polish team

52:20 – Frank Sawyer invented the Pheasant tail nymph.

53:15 – Here’s a video of the tuck cast.

1:00:00 – Here’s a link to Jason Borger and the shadow cast from a River Run Through It

1:06:50 – Joan Wulff gives us a casting demonstration.

1:13:00 – The SC20 fly rod that celebrated the 20 year anniversary of a River Runs Through it.

1:14:40 – You can find Jason Borger here.

 

You can reach Gary at GaryBorger.com.

 

 

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Nymphing for Trout Conclusion with Gary Borger

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Beginners Guide to Nymphing and the Top 17 Euro Nymphing Tips for Trout

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I started nymphing for trout a long long time ago in a galaxy far far away.  Back then we called it tight line fishing or better yet, just nymphing.  We never uttered the words – Euro nymphing, mono, dynamic, or any of the other great and powerful buzz words we hear from the leaders in the game today.

Lance, Devin, George, Gary are all people I’ve been fortunate enough to have on the Wet Fly Swing podcast and all people that are leading especially as more and more people try out euro nymphing.

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But, to the untrained ear, the word Euro (fill the blank) can bring in derogatory thoughts to some.  Case in point my brother Chris who just this week replied to a text from me……

Here’s what I said – I told him I was going to the cabin, taking our cat and heading out for some euro nymphing.

I will preface by saying that I love my brother, but our politics don’t align and we don’t always see I to eye.

Here’s his exact reply:  “Cat?  Euro Nymphing?  You’ve changed.  Don’t F$%*#ing call me anymore.  Lol”

Now that was said facetiously but there is some truth in his mind to the euro because he doesn’t understand it.  and the cat, well you are going to have to wait until the end of this post to hear how we ended up with a cat, a leash, and now a euro nymphing day on the river with the cat.

Today, I’m going to break down Nymphing basics and highlight some top tips for euro nymphing from some of my best guests that we’ve had on the Wet Fly Swing Podcast.

At the end of this article, you will have a strong background in understanding what nymphing is and how to get started.  And you will have a ton of resources to draw from as you begin your journey.

 

Table of Contents 

Part I – Basic Nymphing

Chapter 1 – What is Nymph Fishing

Chapter 2 – Nymph fishing history

Chapter 3 – The Nymphs Life Cycle

Chapter 4 – Nymphing Techniques (euro, mono, bobber, tight line)

Chapter 5 – Nymphing Rig, Rod and Gear

Chapter 6 – Tips on Casting a Heavy Nymph

Chapter 7 – Landing a Big Fish

Chapter 8 – best nymphing flies and matching the hatch

 

Part II – Euro Nymphing

Chapter 9 – What is Euro Nymphing

Chapter 10 – The Euro Nymphing Rig

Chapter 11 – Euro Nymphing Rod

Chapter 12 – Euro Nymphing Flies

Chapter 13 – 17 Euro nymphing tips for trout

Chapter 14 – Resources for Euro Nymphing


Before we get started I wanted to provide a quick summary of the tips covered toward the end of this blog post.

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Part I – Basic Nymphing

Chapter 1. What is Nymphing

Getting down and dirty with it.  chuck and duck.  Bobber fishing.  and even the fact that the word nymphing isn’t even listed on google in normal fashion because of the sexual annotation of the word nymph or its close relatives?

But, let’s not go there.

Nymphing never got the respect it deserved, especially early on because it wasn’t as graceful as some of the old school tactics, even though it’s one of the most effective methods to catch fish.

Unlike fishing dry flies, fishing streamers or even fishing the wet fly, nymph fishing is like the blue-collar way to catch fish.

As noted above, the key to nymph fishing and the best description is this – you’re trying to reach the fish below the surface that is closer to the bottom than the top.

This is important to remember because the faster you get down to the fish the better.

In nymphing, you are trying to imitate the nymphal stage of the aquatic insect but remember and as we will note later, you don’t always have to be exact or even close to matching the bug.

You can find some information online about the aquatic insects life history including the mayfly which is important for trout fishing.

There are a number of different tactics that we will cover today but in the simplest form, it is about getting down and dirty.

Now, euro nymphing is what we hear about every day and our most popular podcasts are always euro nymphing podcasts.

Euro nymphing has become the most effective method to get the fly down to the fish and allows you to feel the fish.

Take a look at part 2 for more details on euro nymphing.

 

Chapter 2.  Nymph Fishing History

Even though nymphing has become this ubiquitous thing in fly fishing today is was not always that way.  In fact, it was looked down upon for many years.

Gary Borger was on the podcast in a past episode and described what it was like when he first began nymphing.  You think you get the skunk eye now for your style, find out below what Gary said it was like back in the day.

Gary Borger was also one of the first to develop nymphing and the first people to start nymphing fishing as we know it.

He talks about how it came to be in a past podcast episode:

When I started nymphing for trout in the 1980’s it was game on.  I would guess to say that by then it was one of the most popular techniques.  This is of course because we know that trout feed 90% of their day on nymphs.

So, if you can get your offering down to the fish with a drag-free drift and as natural as possible then you have a good chance.

One way to get a drag-free drift is to master mending of your fly line to present the fly properly.

Getting the fly down is where euro nymphing is so effective, mainly because it removes all of the things between you feeling the fish.

Orvis talks about the drag-free drift in an article on basic nymph fishing.

Here’s a short clip from that article on getting your fly to the fish:

“Once you cast your fly, imagine a vertical lane from the surface to the bottom parallel to the direction of the current. As long as your fly drifts along this lane, close enough for trout lying near the bottom to see it, you should be able to tease some of them into eating your nymph.”

 

Chapter 3. The Nymphs Life Cycle

I’m not going to BS you and tell you that I’m an entomologist.  I enjoy learning more about the life cycle of the bugs we fish with but for more info check in with Rick Hafele who is one of our leading entomologists in the west and also wrote Western Hatches.

western hatches

Peter at Ascent Fly Fishing is another great resource for matching the hatch and on aquatic insect biology.

Both Peter and Rick above have made their living identifying and teach aquatic invertebrate life histories with a focus on fly fishing.

Here’s a short clip on the stonefly lifecycle:

Stonefly Lifecycle video from Macroinvertebrates on Vimeo.

 

The life cycle of a nymph

Here is a very basic version of the life cycle of an aquatic invertebrate.  The nymph, grows and lives on the bottom of the stream from a month up to multiple years.  When ready to emerge and migrate, it starts it’s a journey to the surface.

Then transitioning to a wet fly and then into a dry fly.  We are not covering wet fly fishing or dry fly fishing here but there are plenty of resources online that do.

What we are targeting is that bug that lives on or near the bottom of the stream.  So we have to imitate a bug that has become dislodged and is floating downstream.

 

Chapter 4. Techniques for Nymph Fishing

Tight Line nymphing

Back in the day, tight line nymphing was my go-to strategy and I have caught many 100’s of fish using this technique.  Here are the basic concepts – A Dry line is typically effective, a split shot 18″ above your fly and a standard 9-foot leader.

You can tie off a dropper fly from the shank of your hook to add a smaller pattern like a pheasant tail or small hares ear.

Domenick Swentoasky talks about his version of tight line nymphing at trout bitten.   Dom was also on the podcast and talked about the mono rig he used.

photo via: https://troutbitten.com/2020/12/06/tight-line-and-euro-nymphing-the-lift-and-lead/

Listen to the Domenick Swentosky Podcast on fishing the Mono Rig:

 

Indicator Fishing

Indicator fishing for me has been more focused on steelhead in the past but the “bobber” has always been a killer tactic for trout.

There are many different ways to fish the indicator and many different rigs to setup but below is one example.

nymphing rig
photo via: https://troutbitten.com/2020/12/06/tight-line-and-euro-nymphing-the-lift-and-lead/

 

Like other types of nymphing, you can cast directly upstream, up and across or even down in some situations.  The biggest difference is the indicator allows you to control your fly and drift with the visual cue.

There are different types of indicators like the thing-a-ma-bobber, yarn and balloons.  For old school guides, yarn seems to be the preferred type.

thing-a-ma-bobber
photo via: https://westwaterproducts.com/thingamabobber.html

 

Wet Fly Swing

As our podcast and blog will show, we talk a lot about the wet fly swing.  But, we don’t about swinging nymphs for trout.

But, it is important to remember that wet flies, flymphs and nymphs can all be swung and effective if implemented correctly.

 

Hopper Dropper

Understanding how to fish the hopper dropper rig is a helpful skill to understand.  The typical setup is some type of a hopper (or large dry fly) with a small nymph tied off the hook bend.

This works great because the hopper acts as the strike indicator and in some situations works better than other strike indicator rigs out there.

 

Euro Nymphing

The next part 2 of this article covers Euro Nymphing so we will get to that very soon.  Now, let’s talk about the typical rod, line and leader for nymph fishing.

 

Chapter 5. Nymph Rod, Line, and Gear

Nymphing Rod

For a general nymphing rod you’ll want to use something that provides for good line control of keeping line off of the water.  You will want to have at least a 9 foot rod but a 10′ rod might be an even better fit.

I like a 5 weight rod and some use a 4 or 3 weight but we will talk more about this in the next section.  So, in general, a 10′ 5 weight is a good all-around nymph rod.

Jason Randall talked about why length matters in a TFO blog post and in his book as noted below.

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photo via: https://tforods.com/why-the-length-of-our-nymph-fishing-rod-matters/

 

Nymphing Fly Line

The fly line is fairly basic in that you need a typical trout line in a weight forward floating line variety.  Many of the companies produce great dry lines but Scientific Anglers Amplitude will work well if you are unsure where to start.

nymphing fly line

Nymphing Gear

We’ve covered most of the important parts of the nymph gear but there are a few other items to think about.  Split shot is one effective piece of tackle that will get you down to the fish.

Lead based leader has been common but non-lead is the better route for conservation reasons.   Orvis put together a great roundup post to understand how much and when to put split shot on your leader.

One other general item that is very helpful, especially for beginner fisherman is a net.  Stonefly Nets is a sponsor for the podcast this year so we will highlight them here.

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Chapter 6. Tips on Casting a Heavy Nymph

This is where the chuck and duck terminology comes into play.  and although you won’t always be casting an ugly flip cast, this will be a big part of successful nymphing.

There are times when you can make somewhat of a “normal” looking back cast when using lighter nymphs.  But, if casting heavy flies there are a number of flip, roll and kinda roll, maybe not real fly casts you’ll make.

Pete from Orvis breaks down a few tips in one of their videos on casting heavy flies.

So, for nymphing, unlike dry fly fishing or wet fly fishing, you just use whatever you have in your casting bag of tricks to get the fly out there.

That might be a water-born flip cast.  It might be the chuck and duck.  It might even be the tree cast.  I will worn you that the tree cast takes some serious balls and you can lose rigs for sure.

The helicopter cast might be a little safer to use and can be seen from Devin Olsen at tactical fly fisher.

 

Chapter 7.  Landing a Big Fish

A bit part of landing big fish is keeping the pressure on and turning them into the area you want them to go.  But also remember that many big fish will make that last big run when you ar lease expecting it so do not grab your leader or you will feel what breaking leader is all about.

Devin Olsen produced a great video on landing fish where he notes a slight angle of the rod towards you which is a game-changer on helping guide that fish in.

You may have heard of the lightsaber approach of the back and forth to tire or confuse the fish.  Don’t do this.

Just stay calm, put the pressure on and turn the fish upstream and above you into a slower area where you can scoop up the fish with your net.

 

Chapter 8 – 12 Great Nymph Patterns

  1. Prince Nymph
  2. Hares Ear
  3. Pheasant tail
  4. zebra midge
  5. rainbow warrior
  6. frenchie
  7. guide choice hares ear
  8. brassie
  9. san Juan worm
  10. perdigon
  11. pat’s rubber legs
  12. soft hackle (flymph)

 


 

Part II – Euro Nymphing

Chapter 9.  What is Euro Nymphing

A good way to start the talk about what Euro Nymphing is all about is by comparing it to other forms of nymphing.  Let’s take tight line nymphing and compare the two.

With Euro Nymphing you will find a more solid connection with your fly compared to typical tight line techniques.

This is because you are using a much lighter leader in comparison and a rod that is much softer than a typical nymph rod.

This light euro nymphing leader is much better for strike detection because you are connecting directly to your fly with almost zero slack.  With older nymphing rigs, you would be using a heavier leader which gets caught in the current more and affects your flies sink rate.

You can also fish more water types like pools and similar water types because of this super thin leader.

Much of these tactics were developed as part of the team USA process where they are forced to fish small areas of water, with restricted gear often in areas that have been hammered by other fishermen.

You can listen to Devin Olsen who talks about the history of team USA and how euro nymphing came to be in the US.

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photo via:https://www.flyfishingteamusa.com/

Devin tells a story about the polish team fishing with sub-standard gear, some of it not even fly gear but that year at the competition they absolutely killed the competition.  And essentially swept the games.

Like playing cards with my brother’s kids or something.

How’d they do it?  Super long leaders, super-thin leaders, super light rod tips, super long rods and super heavy flies when needed..

That’s euro nymphing.

I won’t go into all of the details of what it is here but will clarify by breaking down each of the sections of the euro game.

Let’s start with one of the most important parts of the euro game – the Euro nymphing rig.

 

Chapter 10.  Euro Nymphing Rig

The Rig might be the most important part of the entire thing so let’s start there and we will get into the rod next.

For this example, we’ll start with a thicker version of the euro nymphing rig to make it easier for a newbie just starting out.  As you get better at the technique you can scale down the sizes to get smaller and smaller on your leader size.

Typical Euro Nymphing setup:

  1. From the Fly line, start with 10-12 feet of 15lb maxima chameleon.
  2. From there –  Attach 3′ of green amnesia to that.
  3. Then attach 18-20″ of bicolor sighter (Cortland is good)
  4. Attach your tippet ring to this
  5. Attach your tippet to the tippet ring
  6. From the tippet ring, attach 2.5 to 3.5′ of tippet to your first fly.
  7. Then add another 20″ using a dropper off the hook bend and your next fly
  8. Boom, you are good to go.  Take a look below as Devin describes it:

 

Take a look at modern nymphing, or check out Gilbert Rowley’s video that shows you how to set up the euro nymphing rig.

 

 

Chapter 11.  Euro Nymphing Rod and Line

The key to a great euro nymphing rod is a soft tip to buffer the hard strikes.  This is mainly because there’s no slack or very little slack in your rig.

Unlike, other nymphing where there may be slack, with Euro, you are direct to your fly and because of this, you will need a soft tip rod to buffer a strike and reduce the potential to break off the fish.

Also, the soft tip and longer length of a euro rod help to cast the long rigs.  Given this, the 10.5′ 3 weight euro nymphing rod is the goto rod and essentially the equivalent to the 9′ 5 weight average trout rod you may have heard about.  Although, I prefer a 9′ 6 weight for my general trout rod.

Also, there is a difference between the high-end euro Nymphing rods and low-end euro nymphing rods.  It’s possible to lose accuracy with slow recovering less expensive euro nymphing rods.  With higher quality euro rods, you can set the hook quicker due to less swing weight in these premium rods.

But there are a number of great brands doing euro now and regardless, you should be able to find a nice euro rod in your price range.

Devin has a selection of different euro rods at different price range so this should give you as start.

I also wanted to note the Pete Erickson episode who is Echo’s euro rod guru.  He recommended the echo shadow x if you are interested in the Echo series rods.

 

Euro Nymphing Line

Again, there are a number of great lines on the market that cover the specifics of euro but to keep it simple up front Cortland makes a great line for Euro Nymphing.

euro nymphing line
photo via: https://www.tacticalflyfisher.com/cortland-competition-nymph-line-level-taper-0-022-mono-and-braid-cores/

There are other resources on euro nymphing lines out there so please check in with me if you have a specific company you love to see what they have for euro.

 

Chapter 12.  Euro Nymphing Flies

Fly patterns or matching the exact hatch are usually not super critical in euro nymphing.  Much more critical is your technique and how quickly you get down to the fish.

For fly patterns, an attractor style pattern typically works more often than a more imitative pattern.

So, here’s the top euro nymphs based on conversations with Devin Olson and Lance Egan in past podcasts (See below to listen to the full show).

Top 14 Euro Nymphing Flies:

  1. Quilldigon
  2. lite brite perdigon
  3. hares ear
  4. frenchie

    frenchie
    photo via: https://www.flyfishfood.com/2017/05/egans-frenchie.html
  5. soft hackle carrot
  6. waltz worm
  7. squirmy wormy
  8. rubber leg stone
  9. Corn Fed Caddis (not a nymph but use it)
  10. thread frenchie
  11. Red Dart
  12. tungsten surveyor
  13. rainbow warrior
  14. iron lotus

 

Chapter 13 – 15 Euro Nymphing Tips

  1. Understand where to fish based on water temperature
  2. Reading Water – Look for any spot in the river that changes current or creates holding water
  3. Base tippet length on water depth but Fish as short as possible
  4. Don’t cast more than 20 to 30′ ever while nymphing
  5. If waiting for the feel of the fish strike, you’ve probably missed it.
  6. Use jig hooks so you hook the fish in the upper jaw
  7. Use hot spots on fly patterns and test different colors and locations throughout the season
  8. Cut the tag ends off of your knots close after seating them correctly
  9. Get rid of the welded loop and use a needle nail knot instead
  10. Use Fluoro-carbon for you tippet to get fly down quicker
  11. Practice casting in the park so you can hit a 3-4′ window
  12. Keep your sighter off of the water where possible
  13. Attractor patterns are better most of the time
  14. Spend extra cash to get high-quality euro nymphing hooks
  15. Use high-quality tungsten beads to assure fast sinking
  16. For each pattern, have a variety of beads sizes to increase different sinking rates
  17. “Thin to Win” – Keep your patterns thin

 

Chapter 14.  Top Euro Nymphing Resources

There are some great resources that cover the Euro Game.  George Daniel came out with Dynamic Nymphing which was one of the big treatments in the day.  George was a guest on the podcast and covered a range of topics including euro nymphing and his background in teaching.

dyanmic nymphing

Modern Nymphing and Modern Nymphing Elevated are two great video resources.  There is also a great euro nymphing youtube video produced by Lance and the guys.

 

Top Euro Nymphing Videos

Modern Nymphing – European Inspired Techniques from Capture Adventure Media on Vimeo.

 

Modern Nymphing Elevated – Beyond the Basics from Capture Adventure Media on Vimeo.

 

Euro Nymphing Class with Lance Egan

 

Top Euro Nymphing Podcast Episodes

Devin Olson in episode 43:

 

Lance Egan in Episode 108:

 

Pete Erickson in episode 118:

 

Domenick Swentoasky in episode 140:

 

The Cat – As noted at the start we now have a cat.  I’ve always been a dog guy but our dog recently passed away.  She was a great dog and will be impossible to replace.

But, weird enough, the next day a cat, same color combinations shows up on our door step.  And turns out that he’s just as cool as the old dog.  So, I’d say I’ve warmed to the cat.

My girls love putting on a leash and taking him for a walk.  I won’t go quite there but do like is rabbit like fur and every time I pet him I can’t help but think what a nice hares ear that he could make if I was able to just snip a little bit of his soft rabbit like belly fur off.

Stay tuned………

 

Nymphing Conclusion

We cover a lot in this post from the basics of nymphing to the advanced tips of euro nymphing.  This article is perfect for you if you are brand new to nymphing or if you want to see some huge tips for euro nymphing.

Please leave a comment below or send a voice mail to dave here at wetflyswing.com/speak if you have any questions or want to take this further.  Would love to hear how euro nymphing is going for you down the line!

         
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