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WFS 026 – Rogue River Half Pounder Steelhead – Dennis Lee Podcast Interview | Eel & Trinity Rivers

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I talked to Dennis Lee about the Half Pounder steelhead, a unique life history that is only found in large number in the Rogue River, Klamath, Trinity and Eel Rivers.

We talk about why this life history is significant to you as a fly fisher, talk about his new book and get into some of the history of steelhead fly fishing in Northern California as this was the birth place of steelhead fly fishing.

 

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Show Notes with Dennis Lee

04:00 – The book “A Half Pounder A Steelhead Trout” is Dennis’ most recent project.

09:49 – Dec Hogan was on the podcast in episode 20 and tells a story of a fish that beached him on the opposite side of the river.

15:20 – Dean Finnerty was on episode 19 of the podcast and discussed how anglers used to cut back the riparian area to make casting easier.

16:09  – Al Periman was a mentor for Dennis

23:20 – The Silver Hilton and Brindle Bug were popular Rogue River patterns.

27:40 – The Sotar raft company from southern Oregon

33:46 – John Shewey was on the podcast on episode 16 and talked about the publishing process.

35:20 –  American River Steelhead

37:00 – Gary Anderson and Gary Anderson Custom Rods.

34:20 – California Spey O’Rama at the Golden Gate Casting Club

41:04 – The Albany Fly Tying Expo event is where I met Dennis for the first time

41:20 – A Passion for Steelhead had a big influence on Dennis.

41:33 – Classic Steelhead Flies by John Shewey is another important book for steelhead.

44:50 – Klamath sized intruders

42:10 – The Dec Hogan episode and the intruder story

47:00 – Squidro by Scott Howell

51:20 – The Jay Nicholas episode where he chats about why he is dedicated to writing books.

 

You can reach Dennis at DennisPLee.com if you have questions or want to reach out and say thanks!

 

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“If I’m not catching 10 to 20 half pounders in a day of fishing, then I’m probably not going to be very happy.”

-Dennis Lee 

 

 

Conclusion with Dennis Lee

I wanted to give Dennis a big thank you for coming on the show.  He sheds light on the amazing diversity of steelhead and why we should care about a tiny little steelhead.

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The Royal Coachman Bucktail Fly Tying Video

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In todays fly tying video I show you how to tie a Royal Coachman Bucktail.  This pattern was taken from the book, The Half-Pounder a Steelhead Trout by Dennis Lee.

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Royal Coachman Bucktail Material List

Thread:  Size 70 Ultra Thread red

Hook:  Dai-Riki #899 Size #6

Tail: Red Hackle

Body: back 3rd peacock, red floss, front 3rd peacock

Hackle:  Pheasant rump patch (brown)

Wing: White Calf-tail

 

https://midcurrent.com/flies/the-history-of-fly-fishing-in-fifty-flies-the-royal-coachman/

“If I were asked which fly was the most killing at all times and under all circumstances, I should unhesitatingly say the Coachman. I have tried the Coachman noon and night, in bright and in dark days, in roiled and in clear waters, and it was taken more persistently than any other fly I have ever seen.”

A.C. Heffenger of Portsmouth, NH (c.1890)

 

The above quote was take from this article from Mid Current.  In the short article they talk about how this pattern was created in the 1830’s and its connection to royalty.

 

Conclusion

I interviewed Dennis Lee on this podcast episode where he discussed his book The Half-Pounder A steelhead Trout.  

The Royal Coachman is one of those patterns where many contemporary anglers ask:  Would I even use this pattern or do I even have it in my box?  It’s a pattern that is just there and at some visceral level seems like it’s one we should take out and cast on occasion just to see.

     

WFS 025 – Trout and Feather Interview with Tim Cammisa | Youtube Fly Tying – Lake Erie Steelhead

Tim Cammisa breaks down his history tying flies online and building a fly fishing brand while working full time.  He shares some sweet fly tying tips and gives us a glimpse at a special fly fishing conference that he attends each year.

Tim talks about Lake Erie Steelhead, his home trout waters and the fly tying video that got 150,000 views for him.  He shares what it has taken him to become a leader in the online fly fishing space.

 

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Show Notes with Tim Cammisa

07:08 – Tim’s “From Vise to Water” video series where he is stepping outside of just fly tying videos

08:50 – Project Healing Waters and Tim’s video that is helping to get the word out on a great cause

12:00 – Lake Erie is Tim’s home Great Lake and home waters

12:50 – Ian’s Brass Ass fly pattern from the Orvis blog and other killer patterns notes

13:15 – The Mop Fly Pattern as demonstrated by Tim in this youtube video

15:00 – A guest tyer on Tim’s channel demonstrates Intruder fly pattern

20:15 – He had 150,000 views on this fly tying video on techniques for finishing a fly

22:55 – John Dun was as steelhead mentor

25:05 – Chuck Furimsky is the lead for the International Fly Tying Symposium

30:16 – Bob Clouser ties his minnow here.  Tim noted that Bob described to him how to name his next fly

31:00 – Kelly Gaulop’s fly tying channel

42:00 – Tom Larimer has a great quote on episode 11 here

59:00 – This is the link to Tim’s recommended fly fishing companies that he shares on his website

 

You can find Tim at TroutandFeather.com if you have any questions or want to just say thanks and connect with him.

 

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https://www.blogflyfish.com/2016/03/tim-cammisa-troutandfeatherco.html

 

Conclusion with Tim Cammisa

I wanted to give Tim a huge Thank you for coming on the show and taking some time out of his day.  This was a special episode as we are stepping a little outside of the steelhead focused podcast.

Did you like this show?  Would you like to see me dig more into some of the other people and brands who are doing some good stuff online in the fly fishing space?

Leave a comment below or send me a message directly here and let me know if you would like me to explore other out of the steelhead box guests.

 

     

WFS 024 – NW Fly Tyer Expo Interview with Hal Gordon – Fly Tying Tips, Steelhead Fly Fishing

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http://ultimatehook.com/wp/fly-tying-shows/nw-expo-2015/

I talked to Hal Gordon, the chair of the NW Fly Tyer and Fly Fishing Expo.  He talks about the history of the show and how it has grown into the larges tying event in the western United States.

Hal shares some great fly tying tips, talks about the history of Atlantic Salmon flies and sheds light and where to find and get good deals on fly tying materials.

 

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Show Notes with Hal Gordon

06:38 – John Shewey Interview – John was a founding member of the Fly Tyer Expo

07:25 – The Federation of Fly Fishers (now the Fly Fishers International) is the mother group who has supported the expo from the beginning

18:20 – The Atlantic Salmon Fly Tyers Guild in Seattle is one place to find exotic and hard to find materials

24:10 – The Ak Best was a famous fly tyer who talked about tying 100 dozen as a good marker

25:06 – The first 20 hours – How to learn anything

28:40 – Find fly tying materials on Ebay here

33:00 – River City Fly Shop is Hal’s local fly shop in Oregon

34:40 – The history of Herter’s Catalog is noted in this article

38:54 – The podcast interview with Jay Nicholas 

41:35 – The Tyrant fly pattern – share an image in the comments if you have one

44:30 – Portland Fly Tyers Rendezvous, Ellinsburg show, Boise show, Idaho falls show, and Redding show – Here’s a link to the list of shows for 2018

46:00 – The fly tyers Conclave

47:35 – Some videos that you can purchase through the fly tyers expo

53:00 – Scott Mcgarva interview on the fly fishing show

59:20 – Wyoming’s Cutt Slam Program is one example around the country

1:00:00 – Royal Treatment Fly Shop

1:01:49 – The 300 species guy – Jeff Currier has caught over 300 species

 

You can find Hal by going to NWExpo.com if you have any questions.

 

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http://ultimatehook.com/wp/fly-tying-shows/nw-expo-2015/

 

I wanted to give Hal a big thanks for coming on the show to share his fly tying knowledge.  Lot’s of great information shared in this one to help improve your fly tying game.

If you want to get your fill of fly tying knowledge this was the interview for you.  Are you going to the show or do you have a meetup in your area?  Share it in the show notes below.

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WFS 23 – 35 Years of Fishing Video Production – Gene Hering Interview from Fly Fish TV

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Gene Hering shares some history in fly fishing from his experience producing fishing videos over the last 35 plus years.  He talks about how he got into it all with broadcast news and how that evolved into his personal brand.

He has produced videos for some of the biggest names in fly fishing including over 40 steelhead videos.

 

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Show Notes with Gene Hering

04:15 – Pacific Outdoors Show was one of Gene’s first program he worked on that was more focused on all of the outdoor issues.

04:35 – Fishing The West was a popular fishing show that Gene filmed back in the day

05:05 – The Fly Fishing TV show began its run on national cable TV

06:02 – Gene produced some of the Frank Amato videos

07:17 – Secrets of Steelhead with  Jim Teeny was one that still sells copies to this day.  Gene produced over 10 shows with Jim Teeny.

09:30 – Kelly Gaulop was another big name fly fisherman that Gene worked with over the years.

17:54 – The Matt Klara podcast episode on trout spey

19:10 – You can see Fly Fish TV past episodes on Youtube

29:00 – My podcast interview with Duran Torrez and Gene’s tips for getting started.

35:28 – Pig Farm Inc is an interesting new group who is teaching people how to tie flies.

40:00 – The Oregon Fishing Club is a resource Gene still uses for fishing access

42:10 – Jim Conway was one of the big outdoor personalities that influenced Gene.  Here’s an old video clip of one of Jim’s shows.

42:33 – Grant McComie is a local video producer who was also an influence.

44:10 – Pat McManus is one of the biggest comedic outdoor writers.

46:10 – The American Sportsman with Curt Gowdy was one of Gene’s biggest influences.

54:00 – Gary Lofontaine was a big influence for Gene in some of his fly fishing background.  Here’s an old clip of Gary tying a caddis fly.

 

You can reach Gene at FlyFishTV.com if you have any questions or want to grab some videos.

 

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Conclusion with Gene Hering from Fly Fish TV

I wanted to give Gene a big thank you for coming on the show and sharing his experience in the fly fishing industry.  For me, I appreciate the people who paved the way as I produce some fishing videos as well.

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WFS 022 – Assistant Principal to Fly Fishing Guide – Duran Torrez Interview | Steelhead, Mindset

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I had pleasure of talking with Duran Torrez about his first year guiding and how his mindset and setting expectations is critical for a successful trip.

Duran shares a ton of insight about his passion and tips for getting into fish.  We are back to the klickitat on this one to talk a little summer steelhead

 

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Show Notes with Duran Torrez

13:57 – Scott McGarva podcast where he breaks down the expectations for your clients.

18:50 – Commando heads on single spey rods are the goto lines for Duran

20:00 – The Hanford Reach was an area that duran learned to spey cast on and is one of the most polluted and radioactive sites in the US.

23:20 – Pete Humphries was on episode 7 of the fly fishing show where he covered spey casting tips.

24:25 – Redington was the first rod that he used getting started with spey casting.

25:00 – Duran thinks the commando heads are great for beginners

32:00 – We talk about the gardening section on the School of Chrome and why that is part of his site.

35:00 – Midnight Sun Custom Flies is noted as a good resource for steelhead flies

35:40 – Fly Fishing Tapes podcast is a new show that I’ve been loving lately and looking forward to having them on our podcast.

35:47 – Pig Farm Inc is an interesting take on teaching fly tying, tattooing and keeping fly fishing fun.

 

You can with Duran Torrez on Facebook at School of Chrome if you have any questions or want to connect with him.

 

duran torrez

 

“You have to love the process.  You have to absolutely be in love with the process of doing what you are doing.  Because if it’s only about the end goal, you are going to be disappointed every time.”

-Duran Torrez

 

klickitat river

 

Conclusion with Duran Torrez

I wanted to give a big thank you to Duran for coming on the show and sharing his unique perspective on teaching, guiding and what it’s like to go all in on your passion.

If you want to learn how to fish for steelhead, make a garden and connect with the outdoors, Duran is your guy.  Click on the link below to get the Steelhead Tips PDF Quick Guide:  wetflyswing.com/chrome

     

WFS 021 – Single Hand Spey Interview with Matt Klara | Fly Fishing, Yellowstone, Skagit Master

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I had the pleasure of talking with Matt Klara who has been around the spey game for quite a while now.  Matt breaks down single handed spey casting and how you can and should get started on it.

We talk about Big Sky Anglers, fishing for trout with a 9 wt, SexyLoops and how he grew up on the Madison spending his summers living out of a camper.  Don’t miss this one as Matt shares his huge tip on a video that is incredible in describing how to “fish” a sinking line for steelhead.

 

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Show Notes with Matt Klara

08:30 – Jay Nicholas was on the fly fishing show in episode 3

08:37 – We talk about Modern Steelhead Flies, Jay Nicholas and Rob Russell’s great book on new steelhead flies.  Matt was highlighted in this book as a guest tyer.

15:57 – Tom Larimer provided some great tips on summer steelhead fishing in episode 11 of the fly fishing show.

17:30 – Big Sky Anglers is Matt’s current fly fishing focus where he is the social media manager for the shop.  He describes a Spey Casting workshop they put on that included Simon Gawesworth.

21:36 – The AirFlo 6th Sense is a line that is noted in the show as a great single spey line.  You can check out more details on the Sixth sense fly line here.

23:07 – OPST Commando, Air Flo Skagit Scout, RIO Trout Max are all great spey lines for streamer fishing and for steelhead

28:50 – We talk about the 2.5x Rod Length rule Matt uses to choose the right line for your rod.

31:20 – Sexyloops.com is a magazine that Matt has written for in the past.  Here is a link to a post by Matt.

32:45 – Big Sky Anglers Blog Link

33:10 – The Echo blog post that Matt put together on the Path of Single Handed Spey

34:05 – Some of Matt’s favorite resources are Simon Gawesworth’s Single hand Spey, and Jason Borger’s Single Hand Casting

35:00 – Skagit Master 2 is an incredible video for covering sink tips and how to fish them for steelhead

39:27 – The Black String Leech is no secret but is one of the best steelhead flies.  Here’s one of Matt’s white string leeches.

47:30 – The Drake Cast with Hank (the greatest fly fisherman)

57:25 – George Tanfield and Justin Spence were noted here

58:28 – Brian Okeefe and Lefty Kreh are two of Matt’s biggest influences.  If fact, Matt notes that all of us can find a connection to Lefty in some way.

 

You can reach Matt by going to BigSkyAnglers.com if you have any questions or feedback.  You can connect with him directly on Instagram here.

 

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Some of the Show Highlights

Matt talks about his transition from single hand to spey rods.  He started fishing the Madison River for trout and was the first place that he started swinging flies with a spey rod.  He first fished the Grande Ronde River for steelhead in 2001 and the rest is history.

Matt uses the snake roll very regularly when fishing for trout.  He talks about how you can easily get started spey casting with a single hand rod.  He also notes that a double taper can work great for single hand spey.

 

Books and Resource Recommended

Simon Gawesworth’s Single hand Spey by Simon Gawesworth

Single Handed Casting with Jason Borger 

Skagit Master 2 was huge for Matt

 

Resources for Spey

Single Hand Spey Casting Video with Simon Gawesworth

 

 

railbird
http://www.sexyloops.com/index.php/ps/railbird-2001

Conclusion with Matt Klara

I wanted to give a big thank you to Matt for coming on the show today.  He breaks down single hand spey very well and includes what lines work great.  He lists a bunch of reasons why you should give it a shot this week on the show.

Please share this episode if you know someone interested in steelhead and spey casting.

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WFS 020 – Dec Hogan Interview | Fly Fishing, Passion, Tying Steelhead Flies with Style

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http://www.royaltreatmentflyfishing.com/BookingRetrieve.aspx?ID=86098

I am excited to share the episode interview this week with Dec Hogan.  Dec speaks in public for the first time about what went down when he posted on Social Media telling anyone who listened to not buy his new book.

Dec also shares a few great tips and a perspective from one of our big names and real good guys in the steelhead game.

 

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Show Notes

06:30 – The North Fork of the Stillaguamish River was Dec’s first river and the first fly fishing only river in the US.

08:00 – Alagnak River and Katmai Lodge is how Dec got his start guiding up north.

11:40 – The Tom Larimer Podcast of the Wet Fly Swing show

17:50 – A Passion for Steelhead was Dec’s first big book.  He tells the story of how it came to be

18:15 – The Nick Amato connection and some of the articles that were written.

19:20 – Wild Steelhead and Salmon Magazine by Tom Pero where Dec was a regular contributor and had a column.

24:00 – The Intruder was one of the big changes in steelhead fly evolution.

23:00 – The Tom Pero Podcast 

29:50 – The DC Prawn Pattern is one of the goto flies

33:15 – Dec explains the social media frenzy and why he said:  “Don’t buy my book”

35:19 – Here’s the link to the 20 page white paper that Tom Pero and Wild River Press put out about the big controversy with Dec’s book Tying Steelhead Flies with Style.

1:04:52 – The goto Scotch in the evening after fishing

1:05:46 – The Royal Treatment Fly Shop is a shop in Oregon that Dec will be teaching a steelhead class at.

1:07:00  – Check out the Fly Tying class at Peninsula Outfitters and The Avid Angler Fly Shop

1:07:26 – Echo and Rajeff Sports have a sports calender and might be a place to keep up with Dec on his tour schedule.

1:08:00 – The Skagit Mist and Purple Marabou fly patterns

1:10:15 – Charlie Gearheart aka steelhead Charlie and Bill McMillan were some of Dec’s mentors.

You can connect with Dec on Instagram @dechogan here.

dec hogan
http://www.royaltreatmentflyfishing.com/BookingRetrieve.aspx?ID=86098

 

“I’m going to tell you what’s wrong with that book, you didn’t leave anything for the rest of us to say.”

-Scott O’Donnell

 

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https://www.peninsulaoutfitters.com/product/tying-spey-flies-w-dec-hogan/

 

The quote above was in reference to what Scott O’Donnell told Dec about his book A Passion for Steelhead when it first came out.  This was probably the best compliment that Dec could have received.

A good half of the show is about Dec’s talk on the social media Frenzy around the issues with his book Tying Steelhead Flies with Style being published without his permission.  You can go to this episode 19 with Tom Pero to hear the perspective from the publisher.

Dec tells some other good stories and some good tips as well in the episode today.  I hope to have Dec back on at a later point to talk all steelhead as well.

 

Conclusion with Dec Hogan

Dec gives us a passionate response to the big controversy surrounding the publication of his book Tying Steelhead Flies with Style, a book that he tells everyone to not buy in today’s episode.

Although I would have loved to sit down with Dec and just talk steelhead, I think it was important to here Dec tell his side of the story so you understand how it all went down.

And if you’re interested in the right spey rod for steelhead, Click here to see the Spey Rod that has helped me drastically improve my spey cast and find more steelhead at a super reasonable cost (You also get a free spey line if you pickup the Spey Rod here).  By the way, the link above is an affiliate link, which means I earn a commission if you do end up purchasing through that link.  It’s at no extra cost to you, and please if you have any questions related to this product, please let me know and I’d be happy to answer them for you.

     

WFS 019 – North Umpqua Interview with Dean Finnerty – Steelhead Fly Fishing and Tips

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There is no question that this will go down as one of the best podcasts on tactics for catching steelhead on the fly.  Dean Finnerty breaks down how to fish the North Umpqua in detail.

The North Umpqua, aka – Graduate school of steelhead fly fishing, is one of the most historied steelhead river in the world.  We cover skating dries in the summer to getting down in the winter.  Dean brings it all to the table so enjoy!

 

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Show Notes with Dean Finnerty

04:30 – Mark Bachman, from Fly Fish USA was one of Dean’s first mentors.  Mark was working for Larry’s Sporting Goods when Dean first met him

08:30 – Frank Moore was one of Dean’s mentors and a legend on the North Umpqua.  Here’s a short clip from OPB on Frank Moore

08:45 – The TU Sportsman Conservation Project 

14:50 – The North Umpqua Trail allows access to the other side of the river

26:50 – Simon Gawesworth was interviewed in this podcast

28:10 – The skagit switch line from Air Flo is Dean’s goto on the North

32:15 – Scott McGarva talks about the Dean River in this podcast episode

34:45 – Peter Charles shows us how to keep your tube floating upright with this Egg shaped tube fly video

35:55 – Rainy’s flies intruder patterns – Finnerty Intruder

47:40 – Delta spey line from Air Flo

1:12:00 – Science Friday with John from WildSteelheaders.org

 

You can connect with Dean Finnerty by going to deanfinnerty.com.  

 

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“If you break that cadence or you break that rythm….. These fish are just like a little kid at christmas…… If you can keep that rythm and keep that cadence……. coming closer and closer to the fish, they will grab it.”

-Dean Finnerty

 

Fly Line Resource Noted in the Show

The Airflo Skagit Switch Spey Line

 

Conclusion with Dean Finnerty

I wanted to give a big thank you to Dean for coming on the show today.  He provided some amazing tips on finding and catching steelhead on the North Umpqua.

And if you’re interested in the right spey rod for steelhead, Click here to see the Spey Rod that has helped me drastically improve my spey cast and find more steelhead at a super reasonable cost (You also get a free spey line if you pickup the Spey Rod here).  By the way, the link above is an affiliate link, which means I earn a commission if you do end up purchasing through that link.  It’s at no extra cost to you, and please if you have any questions related to this product, please let me know and I’d be happy to answer them for you.

     
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